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17 Dec 2022
In February, I did Geomantic readings for the outcome of the war in Ukraine. I remember that most of us, including me, thought that Ukraine would fold up like a cheap suit in a matter of weeks. Geomancy indicated otherwise, so I put up the reading.

At this writing, ten months later, war is still being waged in Ukraine and Zelinsky is still in power there. Geomancy seems to have given some good insights on this one.

I am happier with the results of this reading than the view-from-10,000-feet mundane reading from 1 Jan 2022. Geomancy seems to do well with very specific questions.

My comments from Dec 2022 appear in blue below:
 
As everyone likely knows, Russia has sent troops into Ukraine, an active war at this writing. Perhaps Geomancy can give us some insight into outcomes:
 
Question 1: Will Russia remove Ukrainian President Zalinsky from power?
Date: 24 Feb 2022
Selections:
House Chart
Querent - House I, Russia
Quesited - House VII Zelinsky
 
Pre-cast note - It occurs to me that if the significator in house I or house VII agrees with that in house X, (power/status/standings/politics), that can indicate who prevails in this struggle.
 
Mothers: Puer, Albus, Via, Puer.
 
House Chart:
 
 
 
The first thing that hits me is, 'There's a whole lot of Puer going on!'
 
There has certainly been a lot of warfare waged in Ukraine over the past ten months.
 
Querent (I) Puer. Quesited (VII) Conjunctio. Looks like denial of perfection to me.
So the short answer seems to be that Russia will not drive Zelinsky from power.
 
Speaking of Power;
Querent (Russia, Puer in I) does not seem to have any natural link with X (Albus).
Quesited (Zelinsky, Conjunctio VIII) Nothing really obvious, but Conjunctio and Albus are both figures of Mercury the messenger. Could be reading into it too much, but Zelinsky is wisely connecting with others and his message prevails here.
 
At ten months, Zelinsky seems to have gotten better acceptance of his message (‘We are being unjustly invaded’) than that of Putin (‘I am clearing out the Nazis from Ukraine’). And so far, Zelinsky has not been driven from power.
 
Cardines:
Beginning - Puer - Yup, Russia started a war.
Middle - Albus - Perhaps there will be a cease fire in the middle -- for a while...
End - Conjunctio - The sides meet in battle.
Aftermath - Puer - More war.
 
There was a very short cease-fire in March to allow Ukrainian civilians to flee, but it collapsed very quickly. For the most part, neither side is agreeing to a cease fire.
 
Court Story - Puer as Witness 1 and Witness 2, Judge is Populus, so lots of war, war on the people.
 
Fellow Reader SDI notes - Zelinsky/Conjunctio in VII is surrounded by Puella in VI (professionals, other mages) and VIII (death, spiritual entities). If he survives, it will be a close shave. Is Putin employing mages, or does Puella in VI refer to a professional woman/soldier?
 
Also, Putin in I has the sword of Puer, flanked by Puer in XII and Albus in II. Putin wields the sword of the Russian State, and wisdom in II suggests that he values wisdom– takes good advice perhaps? It may be that the war in Ukraine is for Putin a strategy to put NATO to the test, and perhaps break it apart. If so, the greater goal for Putin may be stress on NATO. Winning or losing Ukraine may be of secondary importance.
 
Also, Via in IX and Populus in XI surrounds power, so power is enveloped in transformation and the people.
 
Axis note -- III (local/neighborhood) and IX (long journeys/philosophy) are both Via, so a complete transformation from bottom to top, near to far..
 
Breaking up NATO would be such a transformation....
 
Puer - Sword/rash actions. in I,IV, XII, W1 and W2. XII - War can come back on those who start it as a penalty.
 
The Raspberry Jam Principle, writ large. Russia’s population was in decline before the start of the Ukraine war, and getting a bunch of young Russian men killed will not help their culture survive.
 
Question 2:
Will Russian power be increased because of the Russia-Ukraine War?
Date: 24 Feb 2022
 
Selection: House
Querent: I Russia
Quesited: X Power
Mothers: Conjunctio, Amissio, Rubeus, Conjunctio.
 
Note the parallel structures between the Mothers of Question 1 and those of Question 2--
Question 1 Mothers begin and end with Puer, Question 2's begin and end with Conjunctio.
 
House Chart:




 
 
 
Querent (I) Conjunctio
Quesited (X) Albus
Note that House I, X, and VII are a mirror image of Houses I, X, and VII in Question 1.
House I and House X (Conjunctio, Albus) are both figures of Mercury (messenger), so a weak confirmation?
 
On the other hand, Conjunctio travels to VI, so is in opposition to X, and is surrounded by Rubeus in III and V.
So that looks like denial of perfection, thus no increase in power for Russia as a result of the invasion.
 

Russia I Conjunctio is flanked by the sword of Puer in XII - power of the State, and the loss of Amissio in II - house of most precious things. The military power of the State will not prevent the loss of what is most precious. The same sword in XII appears in VII, the house of Russia’s enemies.
 

Power, House X, is occupied by Albus/wisdom, and flanked by Via in XI and Fortuna Minor in IX. Wisdom leads to power through the transformation of Russia’s hopes and dreams, and a chance success in a long slog– So there may be success here for Russia in a way they do not anticipate, possibly by the transformation of the hopes and dreams they now hold, and maybe a chance occurrence in the course of the war.
 

Cardines:
Begin (I) Conjunctio. The armies clash? or a meeting
Mid (X) Albus - Peace, for a while....
End (VII) Puer - War
Aftermath (VI) Conjunctio Armies clash again, or meeting again.
 
Note that Houses I, IV, and VII have Puer and Conjunctio interchanged between Question 1 and Question 2, with Albus at X in both.
 
The charts seem to be linked, with mirrored placement of significators and some things turning up in the same houses. I am not sure of the significance, but it's interesting;
 
Same houses between 2 charts:
Puer XII, Puella VI, Albus X.
 
Mirrored placements:
Puer in I, VII; Conjunctio VII, I; Puella VIII, XII; Via IX, XI
 
We'll have to see how this lines up with the eventual outcome of the war. Hopefully it can be short.
 


At ten months, the war is not nearly short enough...
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